Grant is joined by Luigi D'Onorio Demeo, Head of DeFi & Dev Rel at Ava Labs for the latest instalment of Still Early. In a varied chat, the two discuss everything from the beginnings of the Avalanche rush, how it felt to be a part of and how it came to be. We dig into Stars Arena and SocialFi, why the onboarding process has been net positive for crypto, why people are becoming more excited to build on Avalanche and the difficulties around user and developer acquisition.